20CV S90V I'm not a fan of S90V (or S110V), in my experience they're brittle and chip really easily. 60 HRC. S90V and S110V are extremely similar, however, S110V is simply a bit harder and a bit better in each category. Even more surprised how little 20CV is recognized as superior to both in the Spyderverse regardless of ingredient list, to heck with steel on paper. CPM-S110V is not a very common blade steel that is used on standard production knives. CPM-S30V has become one of the most used premium steels on the market among knife manufacturers. is not a very common blade steel that is used on standard production knives. CPM 20CV represents an upgrade for this new knife over its predecessor, which used 154 CM. a mix) of carbon and iron that i Thanks to ShavedAlpaca, giorgi chubinidze, and 弌亠��亞亠亶 亊从��仆亳仆 for becoming Knife Steel Nerds Patreon supporters! March 30, 2020 Larrin Thanks to Josh Warren and Alex K for becoming Knife Steel Nerds Patreon supporters! Sep 9, 2018 #8 Enjoy it! The Spyderco Native 5 in S110V and FRN represents good value for those looking for a high end blade or a lightweight EDC, but it's not perfect. Click a specific steel below to see its elements. They began producing a copy of M390 called Duratech 20CV, and this steel started to be used by major USA knife companies.  Originally developed by both Chris Reeve (a world renowned knife maker) and Dick Barber of Crucible Industries, S30V is a martensitic powder-made stainless steel. S110V has not only 0.5% more C, but it also has at least 1% more Cr, 3% Nb, 2% Mo, and 2.5% Co These cumulatively have a complicated impact on the characteristics of the resulting alloy vs S90V, i.e. I've just never actually used s90v so I wastn't sure. Today I'm comparing M30, 20CV, S90V and S110V. Huge selection of the highest quality products, from everyday carry to high-end collector's items. s110v vs m390 I can t personally judge the tendencies for chipping. Update 3/10/2020: We did a range of experiments with SPY27 to supplement the estimates in this article. They are all CPM S110V CPM S90V M390 ZDP-189 Elmax CPM-20CV CPM-M4 CPM S35VN CPM S30V CPM S110V Im Vergleich zu anderen kommerziellen Werkzeugstählen ist der CPM S110V außergewöhnlich Verschleißfest und weißt eine hohe Kantenstabilität auf. It doesn't help that they're a real pain in the ass to sharpen. Some 20cv can Advantages: Outstanding edge holding and corrosion resistance, requires . I've always loved m390/20cv more than any other steel, well except for maybe 154cm from my noob days, so I'll probably stick with the 20cv. One of the Marine Approved top recommendations for a knife encompassing CPM-20CV steel is the Cold Steel. Martensitic is a specific type of stainless steel alloy. Either you are a new knife user or an old one, we all want to know the anatomy of our knives, every detail counts, especially the steel used to build it, and for this reason, we���re going to review the M390 Steel knife. S90V has a better edge retention but let's all be honest, edge retention for most of us is just numbers on a piece of paper. com CPM 3-V is a tough and well known Crucible steel with a fair amount of chromium and the ability to hold a very fine edge, but slightly simpler in composition than S30 or S35-VN I often reference this article , which has similar charts. The Benchmade 698 Foray features contoured black G10 fiberglass composite handle scales with 410SS stainless steel liners. S110V has a similar Mo content as well so it should still have better corrosion resistance than S45VN. Jim's cutting test gives the K390 mule a 37 percent increase in number of cuts over the S110V mule. Or use a micro bevel if you do. The Mo content of M390 is lower, however, so it is S110V is slightly better in terms of corrosion resistance and toughness compared to S90V. CPM 20CV What it is: CPM 20CV is a "Crucible Particle Metallurgy" stainless steel, widely regarded as a "super steel" for its properties and performance. Toughness Test K390 vs Cruwear vs S110V. I prefer S90V, it just seems to keep its fine edge longer than 20CP and S110V. Both super steels. For the record, I think the work you���ve done is great, and I don���t mean to naysay your information. The steels used in my knives run the gamut from the ���lowly��� 8Cr13MoV all the way down to CPM S110V. M390 vs 20CV vs 204P ��� 3rd Generation Powder Metallurgy Technology? it's not as simple 20cv is faster to sharpen than s110v depending on the hardness of the steel. So surprised how CTS-204P fails to be recognized as the M390 Equal. Latrobe 20CV alone has proven sharper smoother subjectively almost Cruwear like cutting right out of the box. Cliffr39 , NG VI and Dangerously like this. I read a ton of Thanks for the input. Hover over an element to learn more about how it affects steel performance characteristics. Still relatively rare in the marketplace and arguably indistinguishable from CPM-S90V outside of the laboratory, but the fact remains that nothing holds an edge like Crucible���s CPM-S110V. It sharpens easier and is cheaper while still having a pretty great edge retention. I own an ungodly amount of knives, the vast majority of them from high performance companies like Spyderco. Latrobe at the time was owned by Timken, and 20CV steel began to appear on the Timken website in ���������������蕁�緇���＜�ф�≦ぇ��������帥�������翫����с����祉����若�激�с�潟����������������ｃ�������障��������������綣���ｆ�������ｃ�����������綽���������������������������ｃ����������������障����������������������������������������鰍�� I would argue that S30V is better for every practical need. This is a quick comparison between premium steels used in pocketknives. Cruwear Steel is known as a SUPER STEEL, and I share the same opinion, it has very well balanced properties (hardness, edge retention, wear resistance, toughness, corrosion resistance), but let me remind you it���s a high-end steel, so Cruwear knives are a bit expensive (Which is understandable), so if you intend to buy or to own one, again I highly recommend it. S90V and 20CP have similar chemistries, but are made by different foundries. M390 / CPM 20CV Stainless Steel Data Sheet M390 / CPM 20CV is a PM stainless steel that offers good wear resistance with excellent corrosion resistance through the use of high chromium and vanadium content. M390 vs S110V: I have a knife with M390. They are both difficult to sharpen/reprofile, same as S110V. The She picked the PM2 in S110V and loves it. In @KnifeUser we decided to walk you through all the details about a knife, the steel used in it and the other components. So when they do chip it takes forever to fix the edge. A couple of years back I told my Girlfriend go ahead and pick one out of the collection this is your knife. S110V was such a bear to re-profile but it is bullet proof with Rust also. Comparing: CPM S35VN vs. CPM 20CV at KnifeArt.com. You wouldn���t want to baton wood with S110V when you can use something like 3V. My Sebbie (S35Vn) and my Spyderco Mule (20CV) take a screaming sharp edge with relatively little effort, compared to S110V. S110V and M390/20CV/204P do have higher Cr in solution than S45VN. They are both very stainless. Don't reprofile s110v with too thin an angle if your worried about chipping. S110v vs M390 pm2 Post by Patronus » Tue Mar 07, 2017 1:31 am Hi there, my boyfriends birthday is coming up and I was looking to getting him a Spyderco Paramilitary 2 for his birthday! All these knives available at BladeHQ. S110V=26 Maxamet=24 M390=26.